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dixie
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what will happen to film when it costs to much and most productions are done digitaly?
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Hdgulp
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your wrong
your wrong
Even if film is not goign to dominate forever which it still is dominating incase you don't know, it will alwasy be around and used by artists! did black and white disapear when color film came around?
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your wrong
Even if film is not goign to dominate forever which it still is dominating incase you don't know, it will alwasy be around and used by artists! did black and white disapear when color film came around?
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Digigenic
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I feel that film will become less accessible as a result of digital technology's ever-increasing promise and presence in cinema. Right now, there isn't a “dominant” format; film and digital are like equals, using each other to create hybrid imagery unlike anything seen before or to be seen again. Digital uses film transfers, film uses digital intermediate processes, it's a relationship that won't last long, but it's interesting to see the two being cross-bred right now. This doesn't mean that film won't continue to be used, because artists will always desire the freedom of having a different image format to use for their production, and film can be used to suit many tastes, but digital is not only starting to meet these same expectations through stimulatory effects, but in some cases, also exceeds the boundaries one would traditionally encounter with the use of film. I do strongly believe that there will be a time that film does become obsolete. I mean, look at the recent decisions made by Kodak...if cutting 14,000 jobs in the film manufacturing sector isn't a clue, I don't know what to say that isn't already being screamed.
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mrblue1022
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Film dead?
Film dead?
Film is far from dead, yet.
Film is still the best acqusition format for the money when talking about theaterical films. miniDV, DVCAM, and HD just can't compete with film when shooting.
The post-production enviroment is another story. DI has given editors, directors, and cinematographers so much more freedom in the post process than the traditional photochemical process ever did. I can definitely see the photochemical process disappearing in the next few years.
Projection of digital films is still a long way off as well. The industry is still struggling with picking a digital format. While strides are being made on this end I think it will still be 5-10 years after the death of the photochemical process that you see theaters going to straight digital projection. And it won't be till a few years after that the digital production becomes more common that film.
Rob
Film dead?
Film is far from dead, yet.
Film is still the best acqusition format for the money when talking about theaterical films. miniDV, DVCAM, and HD just can't compete with film when shooting.
The post-production enviroment is another story. DI has given editors, directors, and cinematographers so much more freedom in the post process than the traditional photochemical process ever did. I can definitely see the photochemical process disappearing in the next few years.
Projection of digital films is still a long way off as well. The industry is still struggling with picking a digital format. While strides are being made on this end I think it will still be 5-10 years after the death of the photochemical process that you see theaters going to straight digital projection. And it won't be till a few years after that the digital production becomes more common that film.
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Digigenic
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Digital Darwinian
Digital Darwinian
Technological advancements have persuaded many people only to consider and rely upon what's immediately available to them. This notion of “Instant gratification” is the ever-consuming mentality of younger generations. As a result, young videographers don't and/or won't acknowledge the option of shooting on film. For those individuals, film is dead because it lacks the instantaneous results they're accustomed to getting with everything else in their lives.
This is why I simply choose to acknowledge the life of digital over the life of film. Sure, they currently co-exist. However, Digital is the newborn with infinite room for growth, and film is the elder, hooked up to life support, feeding off of the digital currents to sustain its' own existence.
Digital Darwinian
Technological advancements have persuaded many people only to consider and rely upon what's immediately available to them. This notion of “Instant gratification” is the ever-consuming mentality of younger generations. As a result, young videographers don't and/or won't acknowledge the option of shooting on film. For those individuals, film is dead because it lacks the instantaneous results they're accustomed to getting with everything else in their lives.
This is why I simply choose to acknowledge the life of digital over the life of film. Sure, they currently co-exist. However, Digital is the newborn with infinite room for growth, and film is the elder, hooked up to life support, feeding off of the digital currents to sustain its' own existence.
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sinjinza1984
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Film vs DV
Film vs DV
Film still has boasts higher quality pictures and better colour reproduction than DV (and that includes HD). Sure, the contrast ratio is better for DV productions, but miniDV, DV, and HD still cannot compete for overall picture quality. Besides, as someone already mentioned, widespread digital projection is still far-off, so the final product will be transferred back to film for projection anyways...
Film vs DV
Film still has boasts higher quality pictures and better colour reproduction than DV (and that includes HD). Sure, the contrast ratio is better for DV productions, but miniDV, DV, and HD still cannot compete for overall picture quality. Besides, as someone already mentioned, widespread digital projection is still far-off, so the final product will be transferred back to film for projection anyways...
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Manuel Marino
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Well, vinyl is still used in our industry, so probably film will still be used in movie industry...
But digital will become the most used... I'm sorry, I love analog in audio procedures and I always felt with digital we lost a lot to acquire only some "noise less" cold experience
Probably it's the same feeling you have considering the digital in movies.
But it's the future... and, sooner or later, everyone will have to accept it.
But digital will become the most used... I'm sorry, I love analog in audio procedures and I always felt with digital we lost a lot to acquire only some "noise less" cold experience
Probably it's the same feeling you have considering the digital in movies.
But it's the future... and, sooner or later, everyone will have to accept it.
Jared Isham
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I happen to work at one of the larger post facilities in Hollywood, we at least are in the top 4 or 5 as well as one of the forerunners in digitial filmmaking.....for post at least.
Out of the 30 or more shows we get I can only think of 5 shows off the top of my head that shoot video. Everyone else is still shooting film and there is sometimes more shows shooting 16mm than there are shooting Video. Ss of now, the highest resolution you can get with video is almost a 2k resolution 1920x1080, we have the ability with film to scan up to 6k resolution. To put that into perspective: 1k image is about 1/4 the size of a 2k image, a 2k image is about 1/4 the size of a 4k image and a 4k image is, you guess it, about a 1/4 the size of a 6k image. witch would make a 2k image about 1/8 of the size of a 6k image and there is still more information that can be pulled out of a film negative - on top of that - do you see IMAX crews running around with HD cameras - normally they have 65mm or 70mm cameras.
Film will be around for a while. Video has its uses and so does film.
Out of the 30 or more shows we get I can only think of 5 shows off the top of my head that shoot video. Everyone else is still shooting film and there is sometimes more shows shooting 16mm than there are shooting Video. Ss of now, the highest resolution you can get with video is almost a 2k resolution 1920x1080, we have the ability with film to scan up to 6k resolution. To put that into perspective: 1k image is about 1/4 the size of a 2k image, a 2k image is about 1/4 the size of a 4k image and a 4k image is, you guess it, about a 1/4 the size of a 6k image. witch would make a 2k image about 1/8 of the size of a 6k image and there is still more information that can be pulled out of a film negative - on top of that - do you see IMAX crews running around with HD cameras - normally they have 65mm or 70mm cameras.
Film will be around for a while. Video has its uses and so does film.
Just to mention the fact that IMAX is 70 mm in projection, but the cameras that are used for 70 mm projection are 65 mm.
The difference beetween the shooting format and the projection format is the soundtrack that you don't have on the camera negative.
For 35 mm standard formats, you don't shoot where the sound will be either, but with 70 mm, it is worth using even a smaller neg so that you save quite a surface of film...
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